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From: SHANE NOLAN Date: 03-30-95 19:44
To: ALL Msg#: 462
Subj.: CNI News v4.7 1/3
Area: UFONews
CNI News - Volume 4.7
March 27, 1995
The stories in this edition of CNI News are:
1) THE LAZAR SYNOPSIS, Part Three
2) DISNEY: "ALIENS ARE HERE AND THE GOV'T KNOWS"
ISCNI encourages you to respond to stories in CNI News.
* Public responses can be posted on the Forum message board in topic 28,
"News Center Feedback"
* Private responses can be emailed to ISCNI, subj: CNI News Editor
The next edition of CNI News will appear on Thursday, March 30.
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1) THE LAZAR SYNOPSIS, Part Three
by Gene Huff
[Editor's Note: From the moment he "went public" in mid-1989, Bob Lazar
became one of the most controversial figures associated with the UFO subject.
This is the third part of a report about Lazar written by Las Vegas
businessman Gene Huff. Due to length, a fourth and final part will appear in
the next issue of CNI News. This report was originally posted on ALTUFO-L
Digest on March 12 and is reproduced here with Gene Huff's permission. Gene
can be reached by email at Gufon@IX.NETCOM.COM]
Gene's text follows:
The next Wednesday, Bob, Tracy, Jim Tagliani, and I rented a Lincoln
towncar to make the trip a little more comfortable. We all owned compact cars
and the round trip out to Groom Lake was a killer. We arrived, turned our
lights off, and went in about 5 miles on the Groom Lake road. We pulled off
on a side road and unloaded our video camera, telescope, binoculars, etc. out
of the trunk. We left the trunk lid open.
The disc came up around the same place but, this time, it staged a
breathtaking performance. It repeated moves similar to the week before, but
this time it came down the mountain range toward us. At first it seemed far
away, then you'd blink and it would seem a lot closer, then you'd blink again
and it would seem a LOT closer. It wasn't the same sensation as seeing a set
of headlights on a car or landing lights on a jet approach you at night time.
There was no sense of continual movement toward you. It just sort of "jumps"
toward you, and this is very alarming to your brain. Bob explained that this
is because of it's method of propulsion and the way it distorts space/time
and light. Bob also explained that the bright glow of the disc was due to the
way it was energized.
When the disc came our direction, it glowed so brightly that we thought
it might explode, so we moved behind the open trunk lid for protection. The
fact is that an explosion was the only thing, other than the sun, that we had
ever seen be that bright, so that's why we suspected an explosion. As we all
look back on that now, it's difficult to believe it came so close that we
backed away from it. After all, it was probably still a few miles away, and
that fact reflects how brightly it was glowing. But the fact is, it did come
that close and the event was much more thrilling than I've described here.
Eventually, it too sat down behind the mountains, and we left. We have
never seen anything comparable to this in the sky out in central Nevada since
then, and we haven't even heard other people's descriptions come close to
describing what we saw. Remember, this all happened prior to the highway 375
sky-watch becoming ufology's favorite past time.
The next Wednesday, April 5, 1989, we arrived shortly before dusk. On
the drive out, Bob told us he had been called to go into work the next day.
Numerous security vehicles were sweeping the roads that the cattle ranchers
use to round up their cattle after open range grazing. It seemed that this
night, more than the previous Wednesday nights, they wanted to make sure no
one was outside of Area 51. We tried to sneak in using our usual "stealth"
mode, but security saw our brake lights and began to chase us. We tried to
beat them out to the highway, but they came from all directions and
ultimately we had to stop. We told them we were simply out there star gazing,
which they didn't believe for one moment. They agreed that they couldn't
chase us off of public land, but simply said they would "prefer" that we
retreat back up to the highway.
They issued us a copy of a written warning that said we were approaching
a military installation, and it stated the Nevada Revised Statutes which
cited the penalties for taking pictures of the base, etc. So much for those
UFO researchers who say that the government won't admit that Area 51 exists.
If that warning isn't an admission, I don't know what is.
We went back up to the highway, but we didn't leave. A short time later
a Lincoln County cop named LaMoreaux pulled us over and hassled us. He took
our I.D.s and radioed our identities into the security base station. It was
obvious that the guards and the sheriff's office worked together. He let us
go and we went back home.
The next day when Bob reported to EG&G, Dennis Mariani stopped him and
told him they wouldn't be flying out to Groom. Instead, they took Bob's car
and drove out to Indian Springs Air Force Base, a small, rural base about an
hour north of Las Vegas. On the drive out, Mariani sarcastically told Bob
that when they told Bob this was top secret, they presumed he understood that
meant not to bring his family or friends out to watch a disc test. He also
told Bob that our shenanigans outside of Area 51 had caused them to postpone
a "high performance" disc test. Mariani was totally silent for most of the
rest of the drive.
At Indian Springs, Bob was debriefed and reprimanded for bringing us out
to watch the disc test. They didn't know we had been successful the two
previous Wednesdays. They helicoptored the head security man in from Area 51
to identify Bob as one of the people he saw when they stopped us the night
before. They told him that if they caught any of the rest of us out there
again, they'd arrest us for espionage. Bob explained that he couldn't tell us
what to do and also reminded them that we were on public land. They explained
that they would simply claim that we were on government land and that a judge
would certainly believe twenty of them before he'd believe us. They blatantly
stated that they would collectively lie to get us convicted -- not that we
were surprised by that. That was certainly enough to keep me away from there,
at least for a while.
They also showed Bob transcripts of Tracy's phone conversations with her
boyfriend/flight instructor. Bob already knew about the affair, but he was
shocked to see that they had actual typed transcripts of her conversations.
Since they now knew that he was aware of the affair, they considered him to
be a sure candidate for emotional instability. They revoked his security
clearance and said he could reapply in 6 to 9 months. They let him go back
home that night, but they apparently weren't done with him yet. A short time
later they called and demanded his presence back out on the Nevada Test Site,
but Bob refused. He knew they had no intention of letting him go this time
and he was not about to volunteer to help them out. Dennis Mariani called and
threatened him, but Bob stood firm.
After losing his wife and the most important job a scientist could ever
have, Bob was pretty much a broken man. His concern for their efforts at
retaliation caused him to decide to go on television in silhouette and tell
the story of what was going on out in central Nevada. After he did that, they
shot his back tire out one evening as he was driving up an entrance ramp to
get on the highway. This was an extra hint of what was in store for him if he
didn't shut up.
Bob had decided to work with George Knapp to expose the story. This was
an aggressive move on his part to try and gain some leverage. If he went high
profile, he could force them to adopt a hands off policy. After going high
profile, if they incarcerated him or killed him, they would have confirmed
that what he was saying was true, and that was definitely not their desire.
At this point, we all agreed that there was great power in KNOWING that
someone was listening on the phone. People watch what they say when they
suspect their phone line is tapped, but it's a much different story when
you're confident they're listening. We called friends in other states and
told them Bob's story. We would also imply that we had informed numerous
friends and agencies by mail, something that they could not monitor. If
someone actually was listening, and I think they were, we must have driven
them crazy trying to figure out what was real. They had to prepare for the
worst and presume we might be telling the truth. Bob was being followed by
unmarked cars both day and night. I was even followed one evening.
Finally, Dennis Mariani contacted Bob and said he wanted to meet and
speak with Bob on a "personal level." Bob set up the meeting at the Union
Plaza casino in downtown Las Vegas. The meeting was set for 8 PM on Saturday
night when there'd be plenty of witnesses if anything bad happened. Joe
Vaninetti happened to be in town from Los Alamos that weekend. We created a
stealth plan and Joe and I accompanied Bob down to the Union Plaza hotel.
Bob entered first and, a short time later, Joe and I entered and sat
down to play the slot machines as though we were tourists. Bob walked around
and looked for Mariani, but at first he couldn't find him. Bob even paged him
on the house phone. Finally, Bob saw Mariani approaching in a crowd of people
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and walked up to him. Mariani wouldn't make eye contact with Bob and walked
on by as if Bob wasn't there. Bob also noticed another security man from S4
over by the wall on the other side of the crowd. Bob casually walked by Joe
and me and told us what happened without looking at us or appearing to
socialize with us. From a distance he then saw Mariani walk into another part
of the casino.
Bob asked me to go into that other part of the casino with him, but to
stay out of sight. He wanted someone else to be able to visually identify
Dennis Mariani. We entered in a crowd and Bob pointed out Mariani, who was
now sitting at a blackjack table. I went and hid behind a bank of slot
machines behind Mariani. I was only about 20 feet from him and I had a clear
view of him. He looked exactly as Bob had described him: thirty-five to forty
years old, medium build, blond hair, and a tightly cropped blonde mustache;
and this night he was also smoking a slender cigar.
Mariani's manner was quite curious. He was sitting between two very
attractive, very buxom women at the blackjack table, yet he would only look
down at his cards and didn't seem to be enjoying himself. This is unusual
behavior for someone in the festive casino atmosphere of a Saturday night in
Las Vegas. Bob walked down the other side of the blackjack pit parallel to a
long bar. Mariani looked up and his head followed Bob as Bob made that walk.
Since this was the only time he looked up from his cards, especially
considering the other available scenery, this indicated to me that he,
indeed, knew who Bob was.
Bob walked around the blackjack pit and walked right up to Mariani and
said, "Well, Dennis, you said you wanted to meet and here I am, now what's
the deal?" Not only did Mariani not answer, he didn't even look at Bob or
acknowledge his existence. Bob said, "Dennis, what the hell is going on?"
Again, Mariani didn't acknowledge him.
Bob came over to me behind the slot machines and we quickly formulated a
plan to follow him and try and get his license number or something along
those lines. Mariani was only out of our sight for less than 15 seconds, but
when we looked back, he was gone. We hurried through the casino in different
directions looking for him. We even checked the restrooms, but he was nowhere
to be found. We went back to the other part of the casino where Joe was
sitting and asked him if anybody fitting Mariani's description had come that
way. Joe said no one who looked like that had walked by his area. We could
only surmise that maybe Mariani was there to speak on a personal level and
that the other security guy that Bob had spotted was a surprise to everyone,
including Dennis. No one has seen or heard anything from Dennis Mariani since
that night.
After this, Bob proceeded to cooperate with George Knapp, who
subsequently produced "UFOs, The Best Evidence." George won the UPI
individual achievement award for that television special. During the making
of that documentary, George tried to check out Bob's credentials, including
his schooling and his previous employment. George could only find a record of
Bob's schooling at Pierce Junior College in California. Even Los Alamos
denied that Bob ever worked there.
Bob provided George with evidence that he had worked at Los Alamos. This
included the names of people he worked with, newpaper articles about him, and
even a LANL phone book that listed Bob's name in it. People were apparently
going to great lengths to detach from Bob Lazar. Eventually Bob cooperated
with George in contacting Kirk-Mayer, the LANL sub-contractor that Bob worked
for at LANL. Both Kirk-Mayer and LANL admitted that Bob had been issued a "Z
number" of 094729 on May 18, 1982, but both said they no longer had any
record of Bob's employment. By the way, a "Z number" is some prerequisite
identification number for anyone who works at any of the LANL facilities. Bob
also provided George with his W-2 from S4. However, George ran into dead ends
when he tried to find who deposited money in IRS and FICA accounts on behalf
of Bob Lazar. The word was that some IRS and Social Security files are also
classified.
In the months that followed, ufology began to become more mainstream,
and much of it was due to George Knapp and others exposing Bob Lazar's story.
The Rachel Bar and Grill, outside of Area 51, became the "Little A le Inn,"
and people began running bus tours out to watch the sky over Groom Lake.
George Knapp received 30 to 40 phone calls on a daily basis which involved
people's reports and questions reagarding all aspects of ufology. Journalists
from all over the world were chasing Bob Lazar for interviews, and still are
for that matter. Then came the brothel bust.
Bob was still a broken man, but when he had recovered enough to go out
in public, he sought some comfort with a hooker. Now I don't know how this
looks and sounds elsewhere in the world, but in Nevada this is no big deal.
Prostitution is legal in the state of Nevada, but illegal in the counties
that house Las Vegas, Reno, and Lake Tahoe. However, this is just for show
and it's common knowledge that brothels and hookers in the form of escort
services exist in these cities also. The police pretend to passively pursue
this, but along with gambling, drinking, and entertainment, prostitution is
part of the package.
Bob called a number out of the newpaper and happened upon a 40 to 45
year old madam/hooker who ran 2 to 4 girls out of a condominium project in
the southeast part of town. This was an upper line condo project, so don't
envision some dark sleezy place engulfed in red lights. Bob went there and
did his business, but before he left, the hookers were having some problems
with a stereo or something like that and, naturally, Bob came to the rescue.
He fixed it for them, and they invited him back for a freebie.
Well, Bob went back more than once and, in time, all of the girls loved
him. Bob has this unique manner about him in which he treats everyone
equally. When you interact with Bob, he never gives you the feeling that he's
a scientist and you're not so you're not worthy. He treated the hookers with
respect, like friends and equals, and this was a breath of fresh air to them,
considering the attitudes they get from some people.
The madam explained to Bob that she had an ongoing affair with a member
of Las Vegas Metro Vice and that as long as she didn't do outcalls to the
hotels, vice would turn their heads and allow her to operate. It is unknown
whose interest these cops were protecting in the hotels. The madam also told
Bob that she was an FBI, DEA, and Las Vegas Metro informant. Bob felt a sense
of security because of all of this and proceeded to tell the madam how he
could streamline her operation by installing computers, security cameras, and
other electronic equipment. This appealed to her, and she financed her
brothel's entrance into the computer age.
During all of this, something bad happened. The madam fell in love with
Bob. She offered him fifty percent of the business to stay around, but once
the electronics were installed, he was no longer interested. Since he wasn't
really interested in her, it was a drag for him to be around and he detached
himself from her and the brothel. To say that she didn't take this very well
is an understatement.
TO BE CONCLUDED IN PART FOUR
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2) DISNEY: "ALIENS ARE HERE AND THE GOV'T KNOWS"
[The following story was forwarded to CNI News by S. Patricia Welsh
(pwelsh@nwu.edu). The first part is a news release found on the Worldwide
Web; and the second part is a personal reaction to the reported television
special, written by Brian Francis Redman (bigxc@prairienet.org). Also
included is commentary from Media Watch editor Marie Jones.
As of press time, CNI News has received strongly positive comments from
three other sources concerning the Disney/Michael Eisner presentation,
although Marie Jones was less enthusiastic. The syndicated special has
appeared on different days in different parts of the country and has not
received much advance notice before airing.]
Alien Encounters from New Tomorrowland
BURBANK, Calif.--(ENTERTAINMENT WIRE) - Feb. 13, 1995 - The age-old question
"Is there life out there?" will soon be answered in a new syndicated
television special, "Alien Encounters from New Tomorrowland," hosted by actor
Robert Urich.
Taped on location at Walt Disney World Resort's newly refurbished
Tomorrowland area, "Alien Encounters from New Tomorrowland" will take viewers
on a fascinating trip through the extraterrestrial world, offering
proof-positive that alien life forms really do exist.
Expert testimony, photographic evidence, scientific analyses of close
encounters and interviews with ordinary people who have had extraordinary
experiences with alien beings will build the case for the existence of
extraterrestrials in our universe. In addition, through the Freedom of
Information Act, the program's producers have uncovered page after page of
documentation proving conclusively that we are not alone -- and that our
government knows it.
The finale of the show will reveal a close encounter of the Disney
kind: a look at Walt Disney World's ExtraTERRORestrial Alien Encounter," a
sensory thriller from Disney and George Lucas that allows visitors to
experience firsthand a chilling meeting with an alien creature.
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Subj.: CNI News v4.7 3/3
Area: UFONews
>>> Continued from previous message
Host Robert Urich is best known as the star of such popular series as
"Vega$" and "Spenser: For Hire," the latter of which has spun off into a
successful series of TV movies. Urich currently hosts TBS' National
Geographic "Explorer" and "On Assignment" series, for which he has received
Cable Ace and Emmy awards.
Writing, producing and directing "Alien Encounters from New
Tomorrowland" is Andy Thomas. Thomas' credits include a wide range of
investigative reports on topics ranging from terrorism to the Kennedy
assassination. He received an Emmy nomination as the original producer of
Fox Television's groundbreaking reality series "Cops."
Most recently, Thomas wrote and produced the Cable Ace-nominated "Modern
Marvels" series for the Arts & Entertainment Network.
"Alien Encounters from New Tomorrowland" will air between Monday, Feb.
27, and Sunday, March 26 (check local listings), and is produced by Thomas &
Friends Productions in association with Walt Disney World.
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Brian Redman posted the following personal observations after viewing this
show:
I swear I'm not making up the following, nor did I dream it. Fox TV had on a
show last night at 11 pm cst (at least it aired here, in central Illinois)
called... "Alien Encounters From New Tomorrowland."
For starters, this show did *not* offer the usual disclaimers as to
(e.g.) "Points of view are not necessarily the only ones", "Views are
controversial and subject to interpretation," etc. There were *no*
disclaimers offered.
The show then went on to say, unequivocally, that UFOs are real, that
the government has been covering it up, and that part of the cover-up was via
ridicule and subtly training people to automatically snicker at the subject
of UFOs.
Further startling items of interest:
* The show was brought to us by Walt Disney! It was partly designed to
promote their latest theme park attraction, opening this summer, called "New
Tomorrowland." This is not an exact quote, but the gist of their new theme
park is that Disney has designed it to help prepare us for our "inevitable"
encounter with aliens (i.e. *Individual* encounter) to occur over the next 5
years. The show stated, with *no* disclaimer, that YOU will be meeting an
alien within the next 5 years.
* The show had documents from former President Jimmy Carter wherein he,
as President, reports having witnessed a UFO in 1969 when he was Governor of
Georgia. Carter's demand...to see all information on the subject WAS TURNED
DOWN!! They had this stated, on mainstream TV, that a "higher authority" than
the blinking PRESIDENT of the United States turned down his demand for
information.
* The program was credible with good witnesses and may have released
previously undocumented information...
* Final irony; last words uttered on the show:
"This has been brought to you by Tombstone [Pizza]. What do you want on
your Tombstone?"
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Just before press time, Marie Jones filed this comment:
I just finished watching a special one-hour documentary from Walt Disney
Productions entitled "Alien Encounters From New Tomorrowland" and was a bit
disappointed. Remember "UFO Cover-Up Live," the embarrassingly bad
documentary from 1988? Well, this Disney offering wasn't much better.
Written and directed by Andy Thomas and hosted by actor Robert Urich,
"Alien Encounters..." served a dual purpose -- a pitch for the latest Disney
World attraction and a basic course in UFOs 101. While the special did
feature plenty of great UFO video footage and interviews with some top-notch
researchers, the sensationalistic tone and terrible direction (how many times
can you zoom in on Budd Hopkins' eyeballs???) served as major distractions
from the important and informative material being presented.
For the viewer new to the subject, this program covered most of the key
areas of research -- the government cover-up, abductions, military
involvement, Roswell. But to the veteran UFO buff, it was the same old thing,
giving the impression that Disney really only wanted to cash in on the
success of "Sightings," "Encounters," and "X-Files." There was little in the
way of objectivity and not one skeptic to balance things up a bit.
All in all, any "revelations" of the government coming clean and
'fessing up to the truth seemed to come with a special waiver attached: "Come
ride the Alien Encounters ride to prepare yourself for that inevitable
contact." Hey, what else are they going to say -- "We don't believe in UFOs,
but come ride anyway?"
Great marketing. Not so great program.
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